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On 17 August 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Orchidaceae to Orchid. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

On 10 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Orchidaceae to Orchid. The result of the discussion was moved.

All orchids are mycoheterotrophes

The "ecology" section seems to imply that only the species of Orchidaceae that lack clorophyll are to be considered mycoheterotrophic, that's not the case. All orchids, at least as they germinate, are mycoheterotrophic, some lose the need to be as they grow (Orchis for example), others are mostly dependant on the symbiosis throughout their lives (most Cephalanthera), others are completely dependant, the latter being the category the article refers to. I'd change it myself but my english is not the best and I'm new to editing Wikipedia Cardocca (talk) 20:16, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Cardocca: I would be happy to add the statement "All orchids, at least as they germinate, are mycoheterotrophic...." if you would add a reference that I can access, here. Gderrin (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, this is freely accessible i believe. Cardocca (talk) 21:39, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are no saprophytic orchids

Although old academic articles refer to some orchids as saprophytic, this is an obsolete term that should not be perpetuated in Wikipedia. There is no plant that directly consumes dead organic matter (saprophytic). Orchids are mycoheterotrophic. Some orchids depend on saprotrophic fungi. In these cases, the saprotrophic lifestyle is exercised by the fungus, not the plant. Further discussion on this incorrect terminology in the following article: https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1469-8137.1994.tb04272.x Flora and fauna man (talk) 12:43, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fix the Page

The Page is Broken 2600:6C5C:6A00:2F2:3D6B:5C0F:4C4A:33DE (talk) 21:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reporting this. Now fixed Velella ^{Velella Talk} 21:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Number of cultivars

I've just made an edit removing the statement that horticulturalists have produced "more than 100,000" hybrids and cultivars. I noticed that the figure was only in the lead and not the article body, and unsourced.

I went digging in the page history and found the 100,000 figure was first added in 2005 with no source, by an IP user. Before that the number given was 60,000, which was included with no source in the very first version of the page in 2001, also by an IP user.

I haven't been able to find any trustworthy sources for an estimated number of orchid cultivars. Unfortunately because the 100,000 figure has been right at the top of the wikipedia page for so long, there are countless sources which clearly just referred to wikipedia in the first place, so we need to be really careful not to reintroduce the number with a circular citation.

The Royal Horticultural Society is the ICRA for orchids, and they do have an online database. But it's only searchable by genus or grex, there doesn't seem to be an unfiltered 'countable' version that's publicly accessible. I'll keep looking, but if anyone else has any leads please go ahead. Averixus (talk) 08:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]