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Discussion for Today

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_September_24

September 24

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Trilingual Wikipedians

Propose deleting Category:Trilingual Wikipedians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:04, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Actors who are Wheelchair Users

Propose renaming Category:Actors who are Wheelchair Users to Category:Actors who are wheelchair users

Nominator's rationale: Capitalization. Fram (talk) 11:26, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was after talking to two actors who are wheelchair users. Like Blind or Deaf actors, chair users have their own identity, and they have particular access needs which makes accessing the profession of acting particularly problematic. They seemed to be a category missing from Actors with Disabilities... which is a title that is questionable. I know quite a lot of Disabled Actors and although they are actors first, being a Disabled Actors has two useful interpretations. From a cultural standpoint they are a community, which is why when the Disabled Artists Alliance was formed, over 300 disabled actors and theatre creatives who lobby against cripping-up in the UK, they chose the name, because from a social model of disability perspective they are also disabled by the ableist attitudes and assumptions when it comes to casting. GRF (talk) 11:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this really a defining intersection? There are no other occupation categories in Category:Wheelchair users other than sports which is something different. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:04, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Films Where Non-Disabled Actors Play Disabled Roles

Propose renaming Category:Films Where Non-Disabled Actors Play Disabled Roles to Category:Films where non-disabled actors play disabled roles

Nominator's rationale: If we need this category, it should be capitalized correctly. Alternatively, it can be deleted, as it is a good list subject, but not a defining characteristic of the films so not a good category subject. Fram (talk) 11:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to title this was tricky. There is a term for this which is "cripping-up", which I have created a page for to explain what it is and why there has been a very vocal movement against the practice that has also had a lot of interest in the press since about 2015. However pre-2000 it was very hard for directors to cast authentically as there were fewer professional disabled actors than I have fingers, and I have a full-set of them. I wanted the title to capture the instances rather than be a critique of what is now seen as an ableist practice. It would be unfair to say that the casting of films like My Left Foot is ableist when there were no other options. This is why on the page about Cripping-up I have added an interview with that film's director who said it is no longer acceptable.

Any suggestions welcome and the formatting I should apologise for. I'm still rather new to this. GRF (talk) 11:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Members of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre

Propose merging Category:Members of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre to Category:Knights of the Holy Sepulchre

Nominator's rationale: This category is superfluous. If you're a member, you're a knight, and vice versa. M.O.X (talk) 09:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Riize

Propose deleting Category:Riize (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only album articles which are already sufficiently categorized in an albums subcategory for the group. This is an unnecessary eponymous parent per WP:OCEPON. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 03:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:44, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: as per WP:CATMAIN. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 04:27, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this is an obvious case of WP:OCEPON. Artists only have an eponymous category if there are some articles about them personally, which is not often the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:35, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:CATMAIN RachelTensions (talk) 04:39, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CATMAIN does not provide any rationale for keeping eponymous categories but simply provides instructions on how to categorize articles within an eponymous category should one exist. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 05:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:NCT Wish albums

Propose deleting Category:NCT Wish albums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Two redirects which are articles already in Category:NCT Wish songs. Information provided in the song articles do not further elaborate on the single albums to justify both albums and songs categories. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 03:55, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait some discussion needs to happen elsewhere as to whether the two articles should be reclassified as "single albums" rather than just "single" - I believe for consistency sake they should probably be migrated to the “single album” format which would be valid for this category.

Either way, the artist has an EP being released in about 5 hours that will inevitably have an article created in the extremely near future (within hours) that will belong in this category which could change the direction of this deletion discussion before the nomination can run its course. No point in going through a week worth of deletion discussion if by the end of it the nomination rationale that all the votes are based upon will no longer be valid. RachelTensions (talk) 04:10, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Steady (NCT Wish EP) has now been created and added to the category. There are now multiple articles using this category. RachelTensions (talk) 08:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional support, as long as there aren't articles the category can be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:44, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle There are now articles. RachelTensions (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Members of the South African Unemployed Peoples' Movement

Propose merging Category:Members of the South African Unemployed Peoples' Movement to Category:South African housing rights activists

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this category that's currently unhelpful for navigation with only two pages in it. Mason (talk) 03:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just delete, Ayanda Kota was not specifically a housing rights activist, and the other article is already in that category. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:52, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ukrainian goalball players

Propose splitting Category:Ukrainian goalball players to Category:Goalball in Ukraine and Category:Ukrainian blind people

Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer, duel upmerge Mason (talk) 01:24, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People adherents to christian new religious movements

Propose deleting Category:People adherents to christian new religious movements (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Not clearly defined. Seemingly ungrammatical. I might support renaming if anyone can make sense of it. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 00:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, one of the issues with many new religious movements is that they are borderline Christian. So Category:Adherents of new religious movements suffices without a Christian subcategory. If kept, rename to Category:Adherents of Christian new religious movements. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Virat Kohli

Propose deleting Category:Virat Kohli (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Not needed, as there are only a few articles directly about Kohli, and not enough to warrant a category. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning keep; seems okay to me ATM and is the average size of most epon categories (and I think it will undoubted expand in the future). Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of the 5 things in that category, Career of Virat Kohli is a spinoff of Virat Kohli that doesn't look to have had consensus to be created, Super V is is an Indian animated television series loosely based on Virat Kohli, so is only tangentially relevant to Kohli, and {{Virat Kohli series}} is up for deletion. As such, I see 2-3 sensible articles in this category only, which is not enough. For reference, Category:Sachin Tendulkar has 11. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 22:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]